I was like, I don't like paper straws, either, but voting for Donald Trump over it? Miller never supported Trump and actively worked against him after his own candidate in 2016, Jeb Bush, fell out of the race. What are my - what are my in-laws going to think about me? MILLER: Basically, yeah. You know, you brought this up. DAVIES: You know, this book notably does not have a last chapter which says, how we get out of this DAVIES: What to do. . And yet somehow these Republicans in the establishment still are deluding themselves that they're in control despite the fact that Donald Trump has completely taken over the party and that their voters are demanding that they, you know, increasingly endorse these far-right or conspiratorial views. Mona Charen is Policy Editor of The Bulwark, a nationally syndicated columnist,and host ofThe BulwarksBeg to Differpodcast. [13], His memoir of working in Republican politics, Why We Did It: A Travelogue From the Republican Road to Hell, was published by Harper in June 2022. . He was a communications director for the Jeb Bush 2016 presidential campaign, and subsequently became an outspoken Republican critic of former U.S. president Donald Trump . He'll be back to talk more after this short break. in film production from Arizona State University. You know, after the 2012 presidential cycle, you formed a thing called America Rising, which was DAVIES: You describe it as a chop shop that would mercilessly investigate and then eviscerate Democratic candidates and causes. We could do a whole two hours about this, and if people want to hear this debate back and forth, I have a whole chapter with Alyssa Farah, who was the communications director for Trump in the end who kind of took that job reluctantly and now has gone full anti-Trump based on his behavior after the election. Roberta Shorrock directs the show. What's the point of editing this? And we're speaking with Tim Miller. These are counterfactuals. His most recent book, How the Right Lost Its Mind, published by St. Martins Press, was released in October 2017. May 28 A weekend content treat for y'all: for the Next Level Sunday Interview we talked to @BradleyWhitford about the West Wings influence & navet, getting owned by Jordan Peele, Transparent & trans politics, what it was like at Juilliard & more. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. I tried to be as honest as possible in this book and honest about myself, about my own failings. And so it's - so really, it's this kind of banal kind of desire to be seen, to be recognized for affirmation that drove a lot of people to do things that are pretty evil. MILLER: Of course, things were factually wrong. That was the kind of party I wish I could have worked for. Tim Miller, a Republican, is well known for his outspoken criticism of former US President Donald Trump. Cathy Young is a writer atThe Bulwark. And I - you know, he's kind of a little aggressive about it. Yeah, go ahead. You're getting invited to these parties with celebrities the weekend of the correspondents' dinner. - if we cannot, you know, at all break bread across party lines because we've decided that the other side is evil, you know, what recommendation could I offer in the last chapter of this book that would be up to that challenge? And they'd say, could you just write it for me, right? Steve Bannon knows he's lying, irrational exuberance took over Kari Lake HQ, and Mar-a-Lago is in a bubble. He holds a B.S. But I think that this justification was, like I said, flattering to a lot of people in Washington who had a lot of other reasons for going in. Episode Notes. Kim Wehle is a contributor toThe Bulwark. They talk about all the things that have made them mad about the left, and they have this deep-seated anger and hatred towards the left and towards Obama and towards the media that I never really had. I focused the book on essentially 2007, the pre-McCain-Palin campaign era through the present day. What wasn't even suggested was actually, maybe we should challenge some of the other shibboleths of the Republican Party. You know, we should soften the language around gay marriage, maybe even abortion to appeal to women in the suburbs and younger voters. I mean, would it sound like, in some cases, people there made a difference? [18], Following the 2016 United States presidential election, Miller joined Definers Public Affairs, an opposition research-styled consulting firm working for corporate clients. Sign-up to receive free editions of our newsletters in your inbox. Yeah. He has volunteered in various positions in politics. But because of the nature of this group I had created, you know, I was actually attacking McAuliffe on behalf of Cuccinelli. For a while - I'm not surprised that you don't recognize it because this was really just in this conservative ecosystem. And I would literally write the blog post. May 21, 2023 by Stars Fact Tim Miller or Timothy Miller is an American political consultant and writer. It's very clearly true. Tim Miller: Normal v Crazy. They wanted the dessert. And so when my editor said, give me a final chapter that tells us - you know, that lifts people up a little bit, I just - I didn't feel like I had one to write that met the challenge. MILLER: Well, shouldn't be surprising - the readers didn't want the veggies, Dave. MILLER: There is this minor level of fame that comes now with being a political strategist. You were a press guy, so you dealt with them a lot. And I think starting it, I think that we can make some changes to the electoral system. DAVIES: This is FRESH AIR. He lives in Mequon, Wisconsin with his wife and three dogs. But what I realized was, in this D.C. culture that I'm now separate from, having been cast out of the party, that is - at dinner parties, that is what they do to comfort themselves, right? Had people like Alyssa not been protecting him from his worst impulses, might there have been 17 Republicans who've had the courage to vote to impeach him the second time so we would've been done with him? Undercover Boss (with Rep. Abigail Spanberger), Ron DeSantis Has an Elizabeth Warren Problem, Dont Daydream of a Third Party President, Racist Chickens with their Heads Cut Off (w/ Rep. Gloria Johnson). Show your support with Bulwark merchandise. RT @BulwarkOnline: On the weekend Bulwark podcast, @timodc said the climate hasn't felt this threatening to the LGBTQ community since Pride Month in 2016, when the Pulse nightclub shooting happened. I mean, this - our political discourse has been contaminated, and I was one of the ones contaminating it for generations now. No, trust me. That's valuable. I didn't have anybody in my life saying that to me, and I had more - I should have. And I give an example about this is, in 20 - I guess it was the 2012 campaign. Jeb Bush for the position of senior adviser to the Presidents Selecting Committee Right to Rise, which is (actually) a Political Action Committee (PAC). So let's just move forward. Like that was the story that they told themselves to justify going in. But that's OK. That's the point of the book, expressing this. So I was incentivized to do that even though a lot of times, I was working with people that were kind of unsavory, where the other material on the website - maybe not what I had sent, but the other material on the website was outrageous. And I was like, this is - what are you talking about? The people that were running it were younger, 20-something Republicans. You know, he had been - had divorced and then reconnected with his wife. MILLER: Basically, they were trying to create a Buzzfeed for the right - right? I don't think I've mentioned it yet, but I'm a gay man. I'm just so sick of the people with their Priuses and their coexist stickers drinking their coffee coladas and wagging their finger at me. I think I called him a grown-up Ralph Wiggum that you wouldn't even believe was real. And over time, that has an effect on real voters, right? And, you know, the 23-year-olds who are writing these texts don't really believe that the election was stolen, but they are now in an even, you know, exaggerated version of that same culture where speaking up and saying, I don't know if we should send this text, is a sign you don't get it. Like, the only writers at the site who got any clicks were the ones who were just writing effusively praise or the articles about Donald Trump and, you know, really nasty memes and, you know, short social media posts about the left. MILLER: Sure. Previously she was the assistant literary editor for The Weekly Standard, where she also managed social media. From 2009 to 2011, he served as Director and Chief Strategist, Digital Communications for Glover Park Group. It's a town that is also run by young people, you know? They wanted the heroin. Really quickly on Alyssa, I just do want to say that that if there's any hope in this story, it's her. Author of the recent piece " I Spent Insurrection Week Listening to Steve Bannon ." Host of Not My Party on Snapchat. Enjoy! by Charlie Sykes. And I think that's right. OK? [13] He was included by The Washington Post on a list of Republicans "who hate Donald Trump the most". Tim is active on social media accounts such as Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. You know, might the election in 2020 not have been quite as close because they would've - because voters would've seen what they - you know, what they voted in a little more clearly? If a liberal, you know, kind of Hollywood movie had written about him, it would have - it would seem too cliche, you know, for them - for him to be a real person. You know that there are all these - that there's a handful of sociopaths, a handful of bigots, a handful of idiots that work for Donald Trump. MSNBC's political analyst is making news in public; find more on him here. And we're still dealing with Donald Trump in 2022, right? Tim Miller isThe Bulwarks writer-at-large and the author of the best-selling bookWhy We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell. Like, screw you. And I think that in a lot of ways, she's similar to a lot of people who are acting a lot worse than her right now. His writing has also appeared in theWashington Post,theRichmond Times-Dispatch, the ClevelandPlain Dealer,and elsewhere. DAVIES: You also say that America Rising, the organization that you founded to research and attack Democrats, would host parties for people at Breitbart and other far-right, you know, publications, bloggers. That would help them get an exclusive, so favors built up over time. In his series of Not My Party videos, Tim Miller a Never Trump conservative and former Republican who supported now-President Joe Biden in the 2020 election has offered countless examples . And this was the recommendations, which would flatten our biases. Charlie Sykes is a founder and editor-at-large of The Bulwark, host of The Bulwark Podcast, and an NBC/ MSNBC contributor. Had I been a voter in Virginia in that election, I would have preferred McAuliffe. This is FRESH AIR. YouTube Tim Miller Tim Miller is a political consultant who was also a frequent contributor to the hugely popular political podcast, Pod Save America. (SOUNDBITE OF ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ'S "VEINTE ANOS (TWENTY YEARS)"), DAVIES: This is FRESH AIR. MILLER: Yeah, exactly, you know? So they were desperate for things that would make Democrats look bad, that would make their viewers, readers want to come to the site. So us at the RNC - I would have to approve it. But they were developing a real-life anger that allowed them to justify working for somebody they knew was dangerous. It's in the mail. You might remember Olivia Troye, Elizabeth Neumann. He was co-editor of the National Review College Guide. And that is a really debase culture. Like, why are you screwing this up? 3. And that was the mindset. He's a former Republican communications staffer. [25], In 2000 Miller graduated from Regis Jesuit High School in Aurora, Colorado, and in 2004 he graduated from George Washington University with a BA in political science. : Why Women and Men Must Join Forces to Achieve True Equality(Free Press, 1999) andGrowing Up in Moscow: Memories of a Soviet Girlhood(Ticknor & Fields, 1989). This Group Will Spend $10 Million to Try", "Trump's Losing, So When Are Republican Candidates Going to Abandon Him? He was afounder ofThe Weekly Standard, and is a regular guest on leading political commentary shows. I had much more in common with, say, a conservative Democrat than, like, a Tea Party Republican in my politics, right? Breitbart speaks with Jeb Bush, exclamation point. Tim Miller Aug 8 124 195 Former U.S. President Donald Trump speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference CPAC held at the Hilton Anatole on August 06, 2022 in Dallas, Texas. There's something to be said for that. And, you know, in retrospect, it's clear that that was, you know, just one small part of kind of mainstreaming what - you know, this radical, nationalist, anti-immigrant ideology into the party. So you kind of felt like you were taking advantage of them to give your moderate candidate DAVIES: Some exposure to voters that wouldn't otherwise know it. When I was first at the Republican campaign school, the person that was teaching the class said the nicest thing you can say about a political operative is that they get it. Tell us a little bit about how you made that relationship work for you. DAVIES: We need to take a break here. And we recruited a couple from the Trump administration. I'm going to go work for this guy that wants to allow me to have this kind of imaginary future, totally fabulous, gay garden party that I'm not even ready to admit that I want because, at the time, I'm still in the closet. He was governor of Indiana at the time. At times, that were - not Breitbart. That section of the book is based on interviews he conducted with many Republicans including friends and former colleagues. Be mad that there's a caravan coming across the border, you know, rather than addressing what was happening in their lives. Tim was portrayed as a Never Trumper and praised by many newspapers and magazines. Tyler and Caroline Jameson's maternal grandmother, Mary Hinkle, passed away in November 2021 after battling cancer. They were the ones who were out to topple, you know, the more moderate Republicans that I liked. Gov. And there were ways for me to use them. And, you know, I look back at that and I say, OK, well, if I was able to do that, that explains quite a bit about how a lot of my colleagues ended up justifying going along with Donald Trump even though they found him, you know, repugnant. Good afternoon and welcome to Press Pass, The Bulwark 's twice-a-week glimpse into the halls of Congress, the campaign trail, and sundry Washington weirdness. and then as a writer for the Bulwark, . I remember watching this and thinking - you might imagine someone watching that and saying, oh, cool. DAVIES: We need to take another break here. What did you trade? And, you know, I think we were well-intentioned. His book is called "Why We Did It: A Travelogue From The Republican Road To Hell.". You know, the second half of your book is based on interviews that you did with people who worked in the Trump administration or supported him - in a lot of cases, people that you knew - and you wanted to figure out what - you know, why did they do this, people who by and large didn't really believe in Donald Trump. Tim Miller is married to his husband Tyler Jameson. . But I'm wondering, in this period, was the stuff simply factually wrong? Who's the we in that sentence? Tim Miller is an American political consultant and writer. Fans of the podcast might remember. - friends of mine who had told me they didn't like Trump at some point over history. And that's the evolution over time, right? His new book is "Why We Did It: A Travelogue From The Republican Road To Hell." Tim is openly declared gay and married to Tyler Jameson in May 2018. And so slowly over time, you know that's what the site started to give them. JVL? House Oversight Chair James Comer implies his informant might have been killed by the Bidens. MILLER: Yeah. He also writes about his interviews with Republicans who find Trump's conduct disturbing or even dangerous, but who found reasons to support him or work in his administration. And so, you know, some of those grievances are illegitimate, race-based or cultural. Were you offering real things or just grievance because it worked? Do I have that right? RT @BulwarkOnline: Is McCarthy makes a deal on the debt sort of like only Nixon can go to China? McMaster, people keeping Trump from pushing the button a pass. And, you know, they wouldn't get personal about it. The couple have been open about their marriage and even shared wedding photos. This is FRESH AIR. Whichever side you choose, well be back tomorrow, and well do this all over again. He has also spoken extensively on university campuses. What about that? MILLER: I hated it. 00:00:00. Back in the '90s, you know, they might listen to Rush, but they'd see, you know, Tom Brokaw at night. But in short, my view is that anybody who really thought they went in to, quote-unquote, "save the country" - there was this group called the Committee to Save America, you know, which was, you know, John Kelly et al. "Tim Miller is going to fight Donald Trump until the last delegate is counted," Miller told Showtime in 2016. . That was, you know, one of the more legitimate pieces of information we spread. No partisan loyalties. I just - there are plenty of things terrible at Breitbart, but I just want to be honest about who I'm spreading the tea about. She started saying, OK, well, as much as I thought I could save the country, clearly, I can't anymore, given his behavior after the election. She is a partner at a communications firm in Washington, D.C., and a founding director of Defending Democracy Together and the Defending Democracy Together Institute. Tim Miller Tim Miller is a contributor to The Bulwark. The False Promise of Higher Education. Tim Miller isThe Bulwarks writer-at-large and the author of the best-selling bookWhy We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell. Called `` Why we Did it: a Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell ''... 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